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  1. phpBB3
  2. PHPBB3-9880

Rename all mentions of CAPTCHA or visual confirmation to anti-bot

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    • Type: Improvement
    • Status: Closed
    • Priority: Minor
    • Resolution: Fixed
    • Affects Version/s: 3.0.7-PL1
    • Fix Version/s: 3.0.8-RC1
    • Component/s: None
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      Description

      The support team reports that many admins are not familiar with the term CAPTCHA. It often causes confusion. Technically the measures taken in phpBB do not work against spam in general (e.g. human spammers) so a word involving spam would be misleading. The self explanatory term anti-bot (plugin/measure/...) explains well enough what is meant and is not incorrect either. Visual confirmation should be avoided because not all measures taken against bots are of a visual kind.

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          narqelion narqelion [X] (Inactive) added a comment -

          The support team reports that many admins are not familiar with the term CAPTCHA. It often causes confusion.

          Please provide evidence of this claim with links to these many specific support topics that demonstrate how often a term that has been around for 10 years and used on tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of web sites, causes confusion. I have to say as a community member who spends more time helping people in the support forums here than 75% of the actual support team, I can find no data to support such an assertion. I am looking forward to whatever statistics you can provide as they must be significant to warrant the extreme measure of renaming CAPTCHA to something ambiguous that can be interpreted differently based on context.
          Also ftr, this patch already fixes all the existing incorrect and confusing terminology regarding visual confirmation/CAPTCHA, but I'm sure you are well aware of that.

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          narqelion narqelion [X] (Inactive) added a comment - The support team reports that many admins are not familiar with the term CAPTCHA. It often causes confusion. Please provide evidence of this claim with links to these many specific support topics that demonstrate how often a term that has been around for 10 years and used on tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of web sites, causes confusion. I have to say as a community member who spends more time helping people in the support forums here than 75% of the actual support team, I can find no data to support such an assertion. I am looking forward to whatever statistics you can provide as they must be significant to warrant the extreme measure of renaming CAPTCHA to something ambiguous that can be interpreted differently based on context. Also ftr, this patch already fixes all the existing incorrect and confusing terminology regarding visual confirmation/CAPTCHA, but I'm sure you are well aware of that.
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          A_Jelly_Doughnut A_Jelly_Doughnut added a comment -

          One potential problem with the suggested replacement, "anti-bot", is that it could be confused with the "Spiders/Robots" admin panel page, which users sometimes confuse with spambots.

          Since examples were asked for previously:
          http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2092790

          I believe I've seen others, but my searching didn't return them in the time span I allotted.

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          A_Jelly_Doughnut A_Jelly_Doughnut added a comment - One potential problem with the suggested replacement, "anti-bot", is that it could be confused with the "Spiders/Robots" admin panel page, which users sometimes confuse with spambots. Since examples were asked for previously: http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2092790 I believe I've seen others, but my searching didn't return them in the time span I allotted.
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          ToonArmy Chris Smith added a comment -

          In the end I made the decision to use the term 'anti-spambot' to avoid confusion with search robots.

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          ToonArmy Chris Smith added a comment - In the end I made the decision to use the term 'anti-spambot' to avoid confusion with search robots.
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          narqelion narqelion [X] (Inactive) added a comment -

          Since examples were asked for previously:
          http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2092790

          That link actually supports NOT changing the existing term for CAPTCHA. The general phpBB population, both experienced and noobs, do not have any confusion as to what the term CAPTCHA refers to. Making a change such as this based on unsupportable claims is just irresponsible to the user base, reminds me very much of the subsilver2 debacle where a decision to drop it was made based on the fallacious comments from a handful of users without gathering any data to ascertain their truth.

          @Chris, Anti-spambot is even less accurate than anti-bot because spam is only one aspect of bot classification and they are generally perceived as email harvesting agents or mail filter tools for filtering spam. Anything *bot is not the the language to apply to CAPTCHA's, especially given that CAPTCHA has only one meaning the world over, no ambiguity, no possibility to misconstrue its meaning. It encompasses any automated test to tell computers and humans apart. Replacing the actual official title/name of a trademarked method with slang is a bad idea.

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          narqelion narqelion [X] (Inactive) added a comment - Since examples were asked for previously: http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2092790 That link actually supports NOT changing the existing term for CAPTCHA. The general phpBB population, both experienced and noobs, do not have any confusion as to what the term CAPTCHA refers to. Making a change such as this based on unsupportable claims is just irresponsible to the user base, reminds me very much of the subsilver2 debacle where a decision to drop it was made based on the fallacious comments from a handful of users without gathering any data to ascertain their truth. @Chris, Anti-spambot is even less accurate than anti-bot because spam is only one aspect of bot classification and they are generally perceived as email harvesting agents or mail filter tools for filtering spam. Anything *bot is not the the language to apply to CAPTCHA's, especially given that CAPTCHA has only one meaning the world over, no ambiguity, no possibility to misconstrue its meaning. It encompasses any automated test to tell computers and humans apart. Replacing the actual official title/name of a trademarked method with slang is a bad idea.
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          RMcGirr83 Rich McGirr added a comment -

          In ACP it is stated as "Spambot countermeasures". It is stated as "spambot" throughout the ACP.

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          RMcGirr83 Rich McGirr added a comment - In ACP it is stated as "Spambot countermeasures". It is stated as "spambot" throughout the ACP.
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          naderman Nils Adermann added a comment -

          It was decided to use that terminology instead of "anti-bot" which seemed ambiguous with search bots.

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          naderman Nils Adermann added a comment - It was decided to use that terminology instead of "anti-bot" which seemed ambiguous with search bots.

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            • Assignee:
              ToonArmy Chris Smith
              Reporter:
              naderman Nils Adermann
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