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  1. phpBB3
  2. PHPBB3-12300

Revert and Reimagine Link to last read posts

    Details

    • Type: Improvement
    • Status: Unverified Fix
    • Priority: Blocker
    • Resolution: Fixed
    • Affects Version/s: 3.1.0-b1
    • Fix Version/s: 3.1.0-b2
    • Component/s: Styles
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      Description

      Revert http://tracker.phpbb.com/browse/PHPBB3-11969

      This implementation goes against all tradition in phpBB and any other user forum software.

      The issue was the link icon to the last unread post was too small in mobile devices.

      The solution was wrong.

      Topic titles should always link to the first topic of the the thread.

      Topic post dates should not be links either (that was just done as no-alternative fallback).

      The correct solution should be to restore original functionality to Prosilver.

      Then we can use the bigger icon topic row icons to provided direct access to first unread posts, which will also work well when the responsive design shrinks down to a mobile size.

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        VSE Matt Friedman added a comment -

        Making the big topic status icons may not be a good think to use because they are also used to display locked, shadow, moved, etc...

        For a decade the little brown icon has been fine. I just think we need to improve the mobile version of it.

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        VSE Matt Friedman added a comment - Making the big topic status icons may not be a good think to use because they are also used to display locked, shadow, moved, etc... For a decade the little brown icon has been fine. I just think we need to improve the mobile version of it.
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        VSE Matt Friedman added a comment -

        This is done. I tested it on all browsers supported by phpBB3.1 and it works. It also works great on mobile touch devices.

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        VSE Matt Friedman added a comment - This is done. I tested it on all browsers supported by phpBB3.1 and it works. It also works great on mobile touch devices.
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        naderman Nils Adermann added a comment -

        I really very strongly disagree with reverting this huge UI improvement. The change was not made because the icon wasn't clickable on mobile or too small. It was made because it is much more useful to return to where you last stopped reading in a topic, and users do not realize this feature exists if it is just the topic icon that takes them there.

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        naderman Nils Adermann added a comment - I really very strongly disagree with reverting this huge UI improvement. The change was not made because the icon wasn't clickable on mobile or too small. It was made because it is much more useful to return to where you last stopped reading in a topic, and users do not realize this feature exists if it is just the topic icon that takes them there.
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        Marshalrusty Yuriy Rusko added a comment - - edited

        We've agreed to revert this as the behavior is inconsistent. For example, if you're reading any kind of info post (say, a sticky), you want to see the first post, not the comments. Likewise, if there are no new posts, the most logical conclusion is that the user wishes to see the first post. Finally, we've been training people for decades that this is how forum software behaves, and changing the behavior without anything in UI expressly making it clear will result in pitchfork-mobs.

        What really should be used for going to the newest post is the round icon to the left of each topic. It lights up when there is a new post, otherwise it is gray and boring. The red signifies that there is a new post, and it therefore makes sense that clicking it takes you to the post. The small icon can be left for backwards compatibility purposes, as it really makes topics with new posts stand out.

        Here is an image further clarifying what I said above: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2745037/_tmp/%2838%29%20%5B3.x%5D%20Discussion%20-%20Development%20Discussion%20Board.png

        This behavior should be consistent across the board: PMs (should take you to the PM), the index (should take you into the forum).

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        Marshalrusty Yuriy Rusko added a comment - - edited We've agreed to revert this as the behavior is inconsistent. For example, if you're reading any kind of info post (say, a sticky), you want to see the first post, not the comments. Likewise, if there are no new posts, the most logical conclusion is that the user wishes to see the first post. Finally, we've been training people for decades that this is how forum software behaves, and changing the behavior without anything in UI expressly making it clear will result in pitchfork-mobs. What really should be used for going to the newest post is the round icon to the left of each topic. It lights up when there is a new post, otherwise it is gray and boring. The red signifies that there is a new post, and it therefore makes sense that clicking it takes you to the post. The small icon can be left for backwards compatibility purposes, as it really makes topics with new posts stand out. Here is an image further clarifying what I said above: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2745037/_tmp/%2838%29%20%5B3.x%5D%20Discussion%20-%20Development%20Discussion%20Board.png This behavior should be consistent across the board: PMs (should take you to the PM), the index (should take you into the forum).
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        VSE Matt Friedman added a comment - - edited

        Updated based on discussion in IRC with Nils and Yuriy that the Red (unread alert status) icons now take users to the first unread posts. Greyed out icons are non-links. Topic title takes you where you expect, start of topic.

        Also changed this priority to Blocker just because it should be resolved before releasing B2

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        VSE Matt Friedman added a comment - - edited Updated based on discussion in IRC with Nils and Yuriy that the Red (unread alert status) icons now take users to the first unread posts. Greyed out icons are non-links. Topic title takes you where you expect, start of topic. Also changed this priority to Blocker just because it should be resolved before releasing B2

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          • Assignee:
            nickvergessen Joas Schilling
            Reporter:
            VSE Matt Friedman
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